Staff Applications | Disadvantages of the Closed

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  1. shuru

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    Woke up this bloody morning and saw I couldn't view Staff Applications.
    Immediately got pretty pissed.

    Reason I No more opinions

    Alright, I get it some people post farm too excessive on applications, so go ahead and make a rule saying if you're going to post multiple messages that are completely out of context with what the conversation is then it's a warning.

    Reason II Favortism

    Favortism is now going to be a full-time thing now.
    Since most staff are usually friends with the applicants, they're just going to vote +1 or Neutral for no actual reason. Now, the community can't even vote on applications even for the people that are disliked and or immature.
    Now, if you're friends with a staff member(s) you're pretty much guaranteed a good rating.


    Reason III

    None of us will no longer be able to point out that it's a copied application or they don't meet the requirements.
    Now, like most of the staff, they don't even bother to look at their applicant's account, just the application.
    I truly don't mind if they don't meet the requirements unless they have proof that they have been given permission, or unless they have a really good application and is mature enough to become staff. Now, none of us can review the application and give our own opinion on it.


    Alright, before someone comments saying " y u complainging bich "
    First of all, I'm not complaining AT ALL I just stating the disadvantages of what this effect caused and the downsides of this sad mistake. Do I expect them to look at my post and actually do that is wanted, of course not
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    Okay, thanks for taking time out of your day to least likely read my entire post, so yeah thanks.







     
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  2. LilConnect

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    +1. I wonder what are we going to do now without the applications. since they were the most famous
     
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    Most of my response will be badly worded and might not make a lot of sense but its 1:29AM and I'm hungry

    Don't really think this matters as I don't really think player votes mean anything considering most people in this community always respond with just "-1" and don't give any advice / good criticism to the application to help the person improve so they get ignored anyway. For the people that attempt to give criticism they say shit like "Bad colour scheme" and "No detail" like who actually cares about colours and they aren't telling them what sections to add more details too.

    Pretty much only me and Etiu did this anyway so not a big deal but I'm sure that the management especially Mahdi knows to check for that stuff and all the other staff can check for it too.

    Some applications just turned into threads of toxicity for no reason and people post farming and nothing was happening to them. Now that we can't see staff applications that can no longer happen. In my opinion they made the right choice

    Also when people got accepted that the community didn't think should have been accepted they just flamed the hell out of them, I am also one of these people because I like to annoy people, and it just wasn't good for the new staff to be greated like that. Now when people get accepted we won't know about their applications and can only judge them off of how well they perform as a staff member.
     
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  4. Sky

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    Its 4 am and im Hungry asf
     
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  5. Sky

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    100% agree

    im go sleep 04:08 am xD
     
  6. KLSxSensei0911

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    I’d rather let the staff rate than the people. You could just motivate a person with your +1, or help him to fix something in your application or something else with a -1.
     
  7. Mahdi717

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    Advantages of hidden application.

    "WHO TF ARE YOU?"
    "ILL TELL YOU TO GIVE MORE DETAIL BUT I WON'T SPECIFY.EXE"
    "FIX GRAMMAR"
    I know you guys think we won't check for requirements but we will. It's just the last wave of helpers were accepted by Harry not me and he decided to give people who don't meet requirements a chance. I got pretty pissed aswell lol. And btw "NEVER SEEN YOU BRO" "PROB 12"
     
  8. EhabSe

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    you are one of the reasons why applications were closed
     
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  9. Kai

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    You know what makes me chuckle, everyone that complains about this got denied themselves/REALLY want staff.
     
  10. Etiuopia

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    The only negatives in hiding applications are threads as these and slight decrease in forum activity.
     
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    As @EhabSe said this id your own fault, your complaining and post farming. Who tf even cares anymore
     
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    I remember you even suggesting to close staff applications, I saw people saying that player votes don't count and they should be close, well here you go, your welcome, well sure people get motivated off of the communities +1s, but they really get demotivated if someone says ''-1 Who tf even are you, please get denied''
     
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    This was a very good and major step
    If you find it negative it's probably cause you got no more threads to talk bs and have fun
     
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  15. KLSxSensei0911

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    So, what I said was right. Both things are the same if you read the message. I’d let the staff decide but at the same time public opinions also matter. To provide proof of a person being toxic, telling the person what to work on and fix in his or her application. So... Everyone opinion matters at some point.
     
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    That attachment shows a picture and in the corner it says hale bob
     
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    The staff don’t really care bout the community tho xd. If anything a solo staff member may make their vote depending on what the community said. But that’s the only instance
     
  18. Andreas

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    Exactly LOL
     
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    Positives:
    - Less toxicity/post farming on threads
    - No "Fuck off random" "I hope you get denied" or favouritism
    - Staff applicants don't feel demotivated by -1's.
    - Less "fights" on applications
    Negatives:
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    Lower forum activity

    Your arguments aren't necessarily valid since Head-Staff are the only ones that vote for applicants still.
    The only bad thing about this is that the forum activity will decrease, which is understandable.
    The good thing about this is that there will be no more toxicity between two players anymore.​
     
  20. Etiuopia

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    Plox add forum rank that allows certain members who are capable of giving constructive criticism view staff applications (me me me and me) thanks
     
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